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Turbo Kings

(originally published in MT #226, Nov 2009)

by Guy 'Guido' Allen

Back in the early 1980s, they reckoned a turbocharged motorcycle would make you king of the road. But turbo soon became a by-word for sales flop

One of my favourite fantasies is that the lads in the R&D department of your favourite factory are sitting around on Friday night, enjoying a few sociable schnapps/saki/vino/G&T/bourbon/whatever and one says to their neighbor at the increasingly tipsy gathering, “Wouldn’t it be great if we…” The rest of the crew chimes in with wildly enthusiastic additions to the idea, and, before you know it, someone’s pressed the ‘go’ button on the production line and the latest transport of delight has rolled into the showrooms. That’s when the hangover kicks in.

A number of motorcycles in my shed can only be explained by this phenomenon, and they know who they are.

It might also help to understand the spectacularly rapid rise and sinking without trace of the turbo kings from all four of the big Japanese firms. They were, in order of appearance, Honda’s CX500 (1981, followed in 1983 by the 650), Yamaha’s XJ650 (1982), Suzuki’s XN85 (above - 1982) and Kawasaki’s GPz750 (1983). In reality, they lasted barely two years and were never revisited as a catalogue item.

Turbocharging is one of those terribly attractive ideas, from an engineering standpoint. You use the waste gas from the powerplant to spin a turbine that pressurises the intake, which in turn assists the engine in making a lot more power. Something for almost nothing. The reality is of course more complex.

You’d think it’s an idea just made for motorcycles. But due to a mix of factors – which we’ll delve into a little later – the idea comprehensively bombed.

Honda CX650 turbo

SO WHO DO WE BLAME?
Hard to know, really. Though I think Honda gets the nod as it was the first to show a working version, in late 1980, based on, of all things, the CX500 V-twin. As Ian Falloon explained in his Hindsight piece in issue 224, the liquid-cooled V-twin pushrod CX engine was designed from day one with a turbo in mind.

Honda was the only one of the big four to develop a significant second model, the CX650 (above).

Sure, lots of people had adapted turbos to road bikes, but the results tended to be slow on the bottom end, ludicrously fast up top, and borderline unrideable in the middle. At this point in history, turbo kits for small engines were in their infancy, so any back yard effort was struggling to produce good results.

Along came Honda with a cunning plan, which was to begin with a likeable but not terribly muscular twin and turn it into an autobahn stormer of high order. Its three competitors soon joined the bandwagon.

The actual turbo units chosen came from three makers. Honda and Suzuki opted for IHI, Yamaha (which built its first turbo powerplant – a five-litre V-eight – in 1970) a Mitsubishi unit and Kawasaki employed a Hitachi. It was the CX500 which won the prize for apparent complexity, thanks mainly to a highly sophisticated sensor and engine management design, while the location of the turbo itself varied wildly.

Honda had its unit in front of the vee, the Yamaha’s behind and below the gearbox, Suzuki mounted its party piece behind the head above the transmission, while the Kawasaki’s was in front of the head.

And here’s another twist in the tail – Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki went for fuel injection, but Yamaha (below) stuck with a bank of pressurised CV carbs.

Power outputs also varied. Honda claimed just 82 horses from its remarkably high-pressure (19psi – about double the norm) turbo on the 500, Yamaha 84, Suzuki 89, while the Kawasaki claimed a mighty 109. None were in any danger of blowing away, with weights generally in the 230 to 240 kilo (dry) range – or about the same as a litre-plus machine.

Reading the commentary of the day, you can see ongoing debates about the virtues or otherwise of turbos, along with arguments over what tuning methods were best. For example, was low piston compression matched to high turbo pressure superior to the opposite? Should one be concerned about having a long or short run between the exhaust manifold and the turbo and what were its effects? It did little to reassure the punters.

Yamaha XJ650 turbo

ALL ABOARD
So what were they like in the saddle? Truthfully, any modern mid-sized sports bike would have them for lunch in a straight line and particularly around a corner. In their day, they got very mixed reviews.

The writers really wanted to like these machines but there was just a bit too much Weird Harold going on for too little gain.

Honda’s CX turned into a totally different handling package in turbo form, which is just as well. It was also bigger, heavier, and was notorious for a longer than ideal lag between when you cranked the throttle at lower engine speeds and when the numerous extra horses joined in. Turbo lag had always been considered undesirable in a car, but even less so on a motorcycle – particularly if the party started halfway through a turn.

Get it out onto the open road and it was a joy. Long legged, very comfortable and supremely stable, it had great potential as a fast mile-eater.

Yamaha’s XJ quickly developed a reputation for being more nimble than the Honda. Less ‘out there’ in concept and configuration, it appealed to those with a loyalty to Japanese multis who were looking for something with some extra bragging rights. The catch was it, like its colleagues, went faster in the pub than it did on the road. A better all-rounder than the CX, it was barely a performance match for a true big-bore multi.

Suzuki’s XN85 started with an oddball name that came with, for the day, a cutting edge chassis. The package included a 16-inch front wheel (just like the GP bikes of the era) the first use of the firm’s successful Full Floater rising rate rear end in a big road bike, plus a number of other goodies such as built-in anti-dive up front. It actually handled pretty well and was closest in feel to the XJ – very much a mid-sized multi (albeit a heavy one) with big bike urge once you got the tacho needle buried into the fun zone.

Kawasaki’s GPz ended up being the most conventional-looking and best performing of the breed. Based on the biggest engine, it had the pick of the low and mid-range performance, along with a serious top end. It was no quicker than the GPz1100 of the day but was quite different in feel. The engine package was silkier and much sexier at high speed, while it felt a little more stable – something attributed to the slightly different fairing design.

As an all-round ride, the Kawasaki (below) was easily the king of the turbo heap.

Kawasaki GPz750 turbo

WHY DID THEY FAIL?
The sad fact is buyers stayed away in droves. Sure we all loved the idea of turbos, in theory. But when it came down to handing over the readies, well, most of us shuffled our feet and mumbled something about buying a nice ordinary litre bike, but thanks anyway.

There are a mix of reasons:
The motorcycle market is widely held to be conservative to the point of suspicious when it comes to avant-garde technology and just won’t buy it in big numbers. For example, we all went “ooh, aah” at Honda’s sexy CBX1000 six, then bought the far more prosaic 900 fours by the truckload (and some of us are still regretting that decision);

The mid-sized bikes that used turbos didn’t really perform spectacularly better (sometimes worse) than the more conventional 1100s of the day;

Long-term reliability and maintenance was viewed as being a complete unknown potentially filled with wallet-eating dragons.


Timing was also an issue. Turbochargers in any application were still regarded as pretty exotic in those days, though a decade later they were commonplace in the automotive world and treated with far less suspicion.

In many ways the rapid rise and fall of the factory turbos was a great shame. For a while there, saying you had one gave you serious bragging rights. And they added real interest to the motorcycling diet.

Even now, I reckon a tidy factory turbo would look pretty good in the shed…

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Kawasaki Z1R TC

THE BIG GUNS
So why didn’t the makers just whack a turbo on the 1100s and 1000s of the day? Well they did, sort of. Kawasaki USA famously had a go in small volume with the Z1R TC (1978-79 – years before the factory bikes, and pictured above), matching an aftermarket ATP kit to the production bike and making 500 examples.

Running relatively low boost from a set-up matched to a 38mm Facet pumper carb, it was reported to be surprisingly good, though low volume production tends be reviewed far more gently than mass-produced. It scored a very blistering quarter mile time of 10.9sec with a terminal of 130mph (209km/h).

The truth is the chassis and tyres of the late seventies and early eighties simply were not up the sort of power a full-blown big-bore project could produce – say 150 or more horses – at least not at a level where the manufacturer would be prepared to send it out into the showrooms. As for warranty, that would have just been a grenade looking for somewhere to explode.

There were however lots of interesting experiments over the years, both at the factories and from their national distributors.


Yamaha in Australia was reported to have had a go with the XS1100. The white-knuckled test pilot, a local top-level road racer, apparently cut it loose on a Melbourne freeway late at night and reported he was using the entire road by the time the monster was up on full boost. Not something you’d let the punters loose on, no matter how late at night…

BUYING A TURBO
Contrary to what many people think, the turbo unit itself is not much of an issue, as there are numerous businesses out there which can rebuild one, just as they can the powerplant.

The real issue for the would-be restorer is getting cosmetic parts, including panels and original mufflers.

Electronics also need to be in good working order as replacement could turn out to be a real nightmare.

The GPz is probably the least intimidating bike of the four to rebuild, while the CX500 could easily end up being the most interesting and valuable.

Most of these machines were sold in the USA. Local sales were very low, and the Kawasaki seems to have got the greatest volume here. Even so, we’re only talking up to a few hundred units.

Once sorted, running costs should be no great issue. They have plenty of straight line performance, but you need to remember that skinny tyres and brakes over a quarter of a century old in design have severe limitations. So cornering and stopping are going to be ‘entertaining’ by current standards.

Prices are not especially high, but beware anything that isn’t running and close to complete, as you could easily find that restorations costs easily outstrip the purchase price.

 

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